tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post2546356256224559316..comments2023-04-09T16:07:39.987+01:00Comments on Wrinkled Weasel's World: The BBC is "hideously" GayWrinkled Weaselhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-27288902438414212762010-03-03T17:55:36.396+00:002010-03-03T17:55:36.396+00:00Point taken, Jim. Please change the subject.Point taken, Jim. Please change the subject.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-36739224885893117242010-03-03T17:31:56.453+00:002010-03-03T17:31:56.453+00:00Ged, well I suppose I could say, with regard to au...Ged, well I suppose I could say, with regard to autoeoritc deaths, not oral syphylis, that I'd like to see your figures.<br /><br />Take a scan through the Journal of Forensic Sciences over the past thirty years and you will find various cases of various types autoerotic death in married men - married to women I mean -and single men who are not 'out' as gay. My impression for this admittedly informal 'research' is that many more 'straights' die this way than gays, in proportion to their respective presences in the general population. <br /><br />Anyone working for long in A&E will be able to report cases of supposedly straight men who have mysteriously 'fallen over in the shower' such as to penetrate themseleves anally with various foreign objects which they find they are unable to remove without medical assistance.<br /><br />People are weird - all people.<br /><br />I preferred talking about lethal doses of radiation, I must admit.Jim Baxterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10817293012642419524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-90525229775175905942010-03-03T17:27:23.943+00:002010-03-03T17:27:23.943+00:00WW - If I have a drugs overdose, that's FA to ...WW - If I have a drugs overdose, that's FA to do with you. I die. My problem. Not yours.<br /><br />I see where you're coming from, but it's crucial to realise the problem is you being forced to pay, not the fact that someone leads a risky lifestyle.<br /><br />Please <a href="http://idlepenpusher.blogspot.com/2009/05/henry-featherstone-puritans.html" rel="nofollow">read this post</a> on a very similar subject - the NHS and alcohol. The principles are exactly the same.Idle Pen Pusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08319222131717187999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-87175665791941265282010-03-03T17:09:37.135+00:002010-03-03T17:09:37.135+00:00Well IPP, I am essentially a libertarian, though I...Well IPP, I am essentially a libertarian, though I disagree with the usual libertarian argument about drugs, if only because the British public cannot be trusted to indulge responsibly, as indeed it cannot with booze.<br /><br />High risk people; such as Gay men, Intravenous drug users and certain migrants, (the NHS definition, not mine) make heavy use of the NHS. There has to come a point when such people realise that taking the piss - doing what you like - impacts on other public service users who need essential treatment. It is already the case that, because of political correctness, certain expensive machinery is set aside for such groups, even though a simple test (which doctors cannot do if the patient is unconscious)would make things easier and free up resources.<br /><br />It comes down to taxation and why I no longer wish my taxes to fund the excesses of lifestyles with with I do not agree.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-18726194730699938272010-03-03T16:51:09.089+00:002010-03-03T16:51:09.089+00:00I think WW is more of a 'homosceptic' than...I think WW is more of a 'homosceptic' than a 'homophobe', Tim.<br /><br />WW - This blog is your property and obviously you can do and say what you like, but don't ban Tim - no matter how silly his comments. Let him call you all the inane things he likes. My policy at my place is only to delete blatant commercial spam.<br /><br /><i>"Hedonism, and worship of it, is not really something that concerns me, unless I am in some way obligated to support it. Since the BBC is funded by extortion, and the NHS is paid for by us all, excessive or perverse behaviour as a result of a life-style choice, must surely come in for my scrutiny. It is not primarily a moral stance, it is a pragmatic one."</i><br /><br />This is frightening. I've said that both <a href="http://idlepenpusher.blogspot.com/2010/02/5-spending-reforms.html" rel="nofollow">the NHS</a> and <a href="http://idlepenpusher.blogspot.com/2009/12/5-key-reforms-for-britain.html" rel="nofollow">the BBC</a> should be abolished. But the answer is not to encroach on liberty in other areas of life because problems arise from illiberal policies. It's bad enough that I'm forced to buy a health insurance policy I don't want. Telling me I can't make my own mind up on drugs because other people are also forced to pay for that same compulsory health insurance scheme just makes it worse!aIdle Pen Pusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08319222131717187999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-61044727558850735662010-03-03T14:36:53.503+00:002010-03-03T14:36:53.503+00:00Tim, you love to go around the blogs doing this so...Tim, you love to go around the blogs doing this sort of thing. I won't rise to it, and, unless you have something to contribute to the debate, sod off. If you don't sod off, I shall ban you. You have a choice - either argue your point or go.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-25111350137978384042010-03-03T14:29:10.498+00:002010-03-03T14:29:10.498+00:00Oh and let me guess. The next defence of unmitiga...Oh and let me guess. The next defence of unmitigated homophobia will be that old one...some of my best friends are gay. We're waiting in breathless anticipation!Tim Purcellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04593157204857846380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-229710126633898452010-03-03T13:34:41.511+00:002010-03-03T13:34:41.511+00:00IPP Thank you for taking the trouble with a reason...IPP Thank you for taking the trouble with a reasoned argument.<br />I don't generally use statistics in my blog because they are fraught with caveats, but it is a fact that almost 100% of cases of oral syphilis are from gay men. If nothing else, it proves a certain amount of irresponsibility in a certain grouping, and I would say the same if it was single mothers - irresponsibility, mainly to others - their friends and family - and particularly to the taxpayer. And you do not have to dig too deep in these stories to detect that heavy recreational drug use is almost always a factor.<br /><br />I wish I could make my point clear without being accused (not by you) of being homophobic. I just picked out gays because they are in the news a lot. Next week it will be Muslims.<br /><br />What we have here is excessive tolerance of certain groups, who take advantage of this tolerance in myriad ways. If they are not playing the race card, or blowing us up, they play the gender card. it has the effect of slewing natural justice, which is there for the benefit of all, not the few.<br /><br />Hedonism, and worship of it, is not really something that concerns me, unless I am in some way obligated to support it. Since the BBC is funded by extortion, and the NHS is paid for by us all, excessive or perverse behaviour as a result of a life-style choice, must surely come in for my scrutiny. It is not primarily a moral stance, it is a pragmatic one.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-53487747965160271472010-03-03T13:09:47.718+00:002010-03-03T13:09:47.718+00:00WW - I've worked in the public sector where th...WW - I've worked in the public sector where the same effect re advancement is in place. I certainly didn't mean to suggest that it wasn't true, nor the taboo on criticising it. (You can only do this if you are scrupulously accurate with your choice of language - something not required of people with lefty views which I found offensive.)<br /><br />What I was questioning was whether there was anything particular about gays. The same effect was at stronger for blacks where I worked and at least as strong for Asians. Women also seemed to have an advantage, albeit not as great as that enjoyed by gays, blacks and Asians.<br /><br />I also think you're on difficult ground with 'normal' and 'healthy'. Anything other than heterosexuality can accurately be described as abnormal, strictly speaking, as it is different from from the norm. But I digress, you were talking about the promiscuity of 'gay culture' I think, rather than that. I'd agree that gays are more promiscuous than others. But by enough of a margin to make it not 'normal'? And why are they more promiscuous? I think it's because they have sex as often and as easily as men want to have sex. There's no need to seduce a girl into bed.<br /><br />I'd also suspect drug use is higher, I've seen statistics showing cigarette smoking and STIs are. This is undeniably unhealthy, too. But I don't think life is or should be about maximising your health. It's an important part of life, but not the aim. And I'd assert that promiscuity and risky behaviours (especially for men) are 'normal' and psychologically 'healthy'. I have no idea what the optimal levels of risk taking and promiscuity are, but I have little doubt they're greater than current social norms.Idle Pen Pusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08319222131717187999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-27619833491876644982010-03-03T12:32:02.774+00:002010-03-03T12:32:02.774+00:00IPP. Having worked in the media for years and havi...IPP. Having worked in the media for years and having had friends in it, from top to bottom, all I can say is that if you are gay you have a very definite advantage in terms of advancement and protection from criticism. It is just like the masons and operates as such. The only thing you can say in mitigation is that this situation was borne out of the days when it was all kept secret and people had to help each other because nobody else would. <br /><br />I take your point about "perversion" and its moral connotations, but since what we are talking about is not normal or healthy, I have no difficulty with the word. My main point is that this behaviour is not only condoned, it is held up as some kind of celebration of decadence and publicly encouraged, in an organisation which gets its funding by extorting money from the public. I write as someone who merely does not wish to subscribe to it.<br /><br />Tim, why don't you fuck off? You obviously don't read this blog, because if you did you would notice two posts this month that can only be interpreted as pro-gay.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-388602328575541632010-03-03T08:32:21.714+00:002010-03-03T08:32:21.714+00:00The blog and most of the comments are a piece of u...The blog and most of the comments are a piece of unmitigated homophobia. Please go and shack up with Nick Griffin, Jan Moir and others of your ilk and leave the rest of us to live in a much nicer world.Tim Purcellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04593157204857846380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-33007503759291675432010-03-03T02:59:41.449+00:002010-03-03T02:59:41.449+00:00WW - I don't think there's anything partic...WW - I don't think there's anything particular to gays about their 'protection' from scrutiny. It seems a bit arbitrary to single them out. The protection is for officially sanctioned 'minorities'. Gays, blacks, asians, believers in religions centred outside Europe/US, the disabled and women.<br /><br />I also don't see the problem with choosing high-risk lifestyles. Particularly if you don't have children to worry about. Although you're right to say that it's taboo to admit that they're higher-risk.<br /><br />If the death rates for auto-asphysiation are 9-1, that seems roughly proportionate, doesn't it? And therefore the numbers <i>do</i> matter.<br /><br />I'm not sure about 'perverse' either. 'Destructive', fair enough, but why 'perverse'? Does that description go any further than a comparison against one's own sense of personal morality? Who's to say what's "right and good" other than for the self? (Subject to not unreasonably harming others, of course)<br /><br />But then, I'm a Merry Englander who enjoys debauchery (or at least its promise) and danger...Idle Pen Pusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08319222131717187999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-52323833598389043032010-03-02T22:43:27.378+00:002010-03-02T22:43:27.378+00:00Jim . You're right. I got the two greaseballs ...Jim . You're right. I got the two greaseballs mixed up. Milligan had the orange segment in his mouth and plastic bucket on his head.<br />I see the BBC are now thinking of scrapping some digital channels.( BBC6 and Asian ) That's good of them. We don't even get digital in our area so I was getting fed up paying for all their rubbish.celeb exitsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-19426141237483458192010-03-02T22:35:38.122+00:002010-03-02T22:35:38.122+00:00Jim, I would like to see your figures on that, but...Jim, I would like to see your figures on that, but that is not the point. The point is that, like so many things at the BBC, this issue is omitted for scrutiny. BBC bias is primarily one of omission. Apart from the time when Mark Oaten was welcomed as a hero on QT after being caught cheating on his wife by engaging in some sort of coprophilic activity with two rent boys. I somehow don't see the same magnanimity extended to white male heterosexual philanders. It is a question of balance, and whether you agree that balance is achieved.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-49637411972988989382010-03-02T21:56:35.511+00:002010-03-02T21:56:35.511+00:00while wearing a Chelsea top allegedly).
Naw. Get...while wearing a Chelsea top allegedly). <br /><br />Naw. Get your unsubstantiated allegations right. That was, or wasn't Mellor.Jim Baxterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10817293012642419524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-40938899742186594432010-03-02T21:50:45.687+00:002010-03-02T21:50:45.687+00:00I think David Carradine and Michael Huchence exite...I think David Carradine and Michael Huchence exited via the throttled wank method. And of course the Tory MP Milligan ( while wearing a Chelsea top allegedly). I don't think it's so much a gay exit as a celeb exit. They can't just have a normal wank like the rest of us. Or are maybe too stupid to do the auto erotic stuff.<br />Didn't the rough blonde woman who does the BBC sport and the rough dark haired newsreader on BBC24 recently come out as rugmunchers ? Must be something in the BBC tea.celeb exitsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-34089278532076353142010-03-02T19:57:25.248+00:002010-03-02T19:57:25.248+00:00'would that be because there are more straight...'would that be because there are more straights than gays?'<br /><br />Ged, it would indeed. That's the point. You imply, or maybe I misunderstand you, that homosexuals get up to more extreme 'nihilistic' sexual activities than hetero or omni sexuals do.<br /><br />They don't.Jim Baxterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10817293012642419524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-22810976227465380092010-03-02T19:56:51.939+00:002010-03-02T19:56:51.939+00:00Rik Mayall did say it's now difficult to get a...Rik Mayall did say it's now difficult to get a job at the Beeb if you're married with kids. But I think the 3 main parties all have their fair share of homosexuals. In fact every British institution has this powerful clique, even the C of E and RC churches. Which is why I'm curious about why the establishment loves Islam, as that's the one religion that sanctions violence against them, and won't split hairs about loving the sinner and hating the sin, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-10314480180516380812010-03-02T19:47:42.913+00:002010-03-02T19:47:42.913+00:00Er Jim, would that be because there are more strai...Er Jim, would that be because there are more straights than gays?<br /><br />Mick, It's not that they are gay, it is that they use it as a kind of masonic clique that makes sure its members are protected from scrutiny.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-9991710275107579342010-03-02T18:15:14.696+00:002010-03-02T18:15:14.696+00:00'This is a male problem.'
No it isn't...'This is a male problem.'<br /><br />No it isn't. Women can be hypoxophiliacs too. <br /><br />You'd find that 'straights' outnumber 'gays' in the autoerotic death count by about 9-1.Jim Baxterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10817293012642419524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-62622829260210145252010-03-02T18:10:17.827+00:002010-03-02T18:10:17.827+00:00There seems to have always been a congregation of ...There seems to have always been a congregation of left-leaning gays in the theatre, and I'd simply assumed that the BBC was the modern-day equivalent.Mick Andersonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-67254889584496238172010-03-02T18:01:03.864+00:002010-03-02T18:01:03.864+00:00Indy, I quite agree. This is a male problem, but I...Indy, I quite agree. This is a male problem, but I always assumed women preferred "Lesbian" to Gay, as in LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bi-sexual, Transgender. However, for the purposes of clarity, I have changed it.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-774075833981858472010-03-02T17:40:53.354+00:002010-03-02T17:40:53.354+00:00I really hate to be the pedant here but what you s...I really hate to be the pedant here but what you should say is that the BBC is by a overly powerful, protective clique of homosexual men, who are effectively preventing criticism of a a certain type of gay man's lifestyle that is by any standards, perverse and destructive, and in so doing, are compromising their impartiality.<br /><br />Half of gay people are women and it's not really fair to tar them with the same brush is it?Indyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04383904151475839441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19662178.post-44257764934715631812010-03-02T17:06:30.247+00:002010-03-02T17:06:30.247+00:00Excellent post. Although you may have am imcorrect...Excellent post. Although you may have am imcorrect word " wink?" surely the i should be an a?<br /><br />But I appreciate I am far ruder than your goodself!<br /><br />That apart it does apppear to be mandatory. What does annoy me, when you talk about a correct demographic parity is a fact that here in Wales BBC Wales, which did you know produces every BBC programme, so we are told! But everyone is Welsh! Fair enough. You will know that in Scotland and I have limited knowledge but everytime I have been there the announces/presenters are all Scots. Same in Norther Ireland. BUT in dear old England it is every nationality, including Welsh, Irish and Scot under the sun. Very few white English. I would not care if they were homosexuals or lesbians or sexless as long as they were white and english!<br /><br />I lived for some considerable time in the South West were the racial makeup has very very few black/asian people yet, you guessed it! Now in the North West any visitor from Mars would assume we are all Black. It is wrong. There has to be fairness.<br /><br />The english are, of course, being removed as part of the EU plan. But it is bloody irritating.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com