Is Rod Liddle a racist?

Rod Liddle has caused quite a stir over at The Spectator with this post

 The first of an occasional series – those benefits of a multi-cultural Britain in full. Let me introduce you all to this human filth.
It could be an anomaly, of course. But it isn’t. The overwhelming majority of street crime, knife crime, gun crime, robbery and crimes of sexual violence in London is carried out by young men from the African-Caribbean community. Of course, in return, we have rap music, goat curry and a far more vibrant and diverse understanding of cultures which were once alien to us. For which, many thanks.

Of course, Liddle gets grief from the usual suspects who fly in the face of the facts and simply use the usual and very tired "racist" slur. Can't they do better? Can they really not offer an argument based on the facts?

Here is the comment I left:

You quoted a fact, used a bit of irony that was supposed to be shorthand for "maybe multiculturalism is not the stonking success it might be"

Result: Outrage.

I spent a lot of time sometime ago trying to establish the facts, which by the way, concur.

What worries me is not the hysterical "la,la,la, I'm not listening" comments on here, but the deliberate attempt by the Metopolitcan Police to sit on the statistics.

It's the climate change syndrome: if the data does not give the answer we want, hide the data.

Until very recently, knife crime stats had to be dragged out of the Police under FOI requests. Any correlation between ethnic groups and higher than average convictions was, by any stretch of the imagination, suppressed.

The BBC routinely suppresses the fact that many of these high profile, violent crimes are perpetrated by Afro-Caribbeans.

It took the Daily Mail, yes the Daily Mail, to get the truth, from official Met records in 2008, and lo!, the truth is there for all to see:

"Black youths are suspected of more than half of knife crime among children in the capital, according to confidential Scotland Yard figures.

A highly-sensitive report reveals that 124 of the 225 under-18s legally 'proceeded against' for knife offences in the past three months are from the black community.

Yet in the overwhelming majority of reported cases of knife crime involving young people, the victims are white."

Now, are your readers going to dispute this? On what basis? The Met didn't

The uncomfortable truth exists and needs to be dealt with by people like Rod Liddle, or it will be dealt with by people like Nick Griffin - you make the choice, but don't pretend it is not a problem.


Jim Baxter said...


I am shocked and appalled by your post. Shocked and appalled. Such ignorance in a man of your normally obvious intelligence is truly lamentable. I know not whether you are to be pitied or excoriated for what may well be adamantine intransigence, not that I'm convinced that there is such a thing as flexible intransigence.

'If the data does...' ???

'If the data do', dear boy, (although I supsect you are a cross-dresser), 'If the data DO...'.

Wrinkled Weasel said...

Jim, you got me there for a moment. Don't do that again, I am feeling fragile.

I'm wearing my wife's knickers.

Spartan said...

Something akin to the stop an search anti-terrorism tactics used just for statistics.

“If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it must be a duck" ... unless you're the Met ofcourse who assume it could be anything other than a duck.

Jim Baxter said...

As long as you're not wearing my wife's knickers - again.


subrosa said...

It was my intention to post a serious comment but now I shall retire to my memory foam with the vision of you keeping your extremities warm by being encased in black lace.

JPT said...

As I myself recently blogged the Harry Brown movie (Michael Caine) is set in London and features a gang. 90% of London's gangs are (according to figures - hard to find but they are there) black. The gang in Harry Brown is predominantly (especially the REAL baddies) white.
Elephants in rooms...(the chattering classes rooms mainly).

strapworld said...

When asked, many times, on television, radio and newspaper interviews in a previous life, why so many black people were being stopped. I would say "If the suspect is described as Black we will stop blacks, if white, whites etc. But, sadly, most of the muggings are committed by young blacks" It was true then, as it is true today. BUT Blair and Brown have politicised the Police and PC now means, of course politically correct, and every police man or woman who wants to get ahead MUST be PC.

In my day we had one representative body! Now they have Black police Associations. Muslim Police Associations. Sikh Police Associations. Surely these are racist? IF the BNP are told to open their membership to anyone the same rule should apply here, should it not?

I am glad I am nearer the exit door!

Jenkins said...

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Well worth the admission fee.

Wrinkled Weasel said...

Thanks Jenkins. I am always pleased to discover new blogs myself. Welcome.

Ayrdale said...

...and aren't these stabbings, carried out by black youths on white victims "hate crimes" ?

Anonymous said...

There is no reason to expect groups to have equal propensities to criminality though. Testosterone, often linked with violent crime, differs between racial groups.

"Mean testosterone levels in blacks were 19% higher than in whites, and free testosterone levels were 21% higher. Both these differences were statistically significant."

Also, are readily identifiable clusters of genes corresponding to traditional continental ethnic groups. Two groups that form distinct clusters are likely to exhibit different frequency distributions over various genes, leading to group differences.

MAO-A variants which place people at greater risk of aggressive behaviour (in combination with childhood maltreatment) also show different frequency distributions across groups.

Also, note global crime rates are consistent with the rates observed by Liddle.

Rushton, J.P., & Whitney, G. (2002). Cross-national variation in violent crime rates: Race, r-K theory, and income. Population and Environment, 23, 501-511